Here is a recurring thought, stemming from ongoing studies of the Buddha’s discourses and a background in Protestant Christianity: Is it that insane to believe that life on Earth in this 3rd dimensional reality — this bardo, to borrow from the Tibetans — is actually a Hell realm?
What if, rather than necessarily being a fiery zone of unimaginable and constant pain/anguish, Hell is actually a relegation to the Wheel of Rebirth, doomed to being born over and over and over again in this world of delusion… until, at one point or another, one finally steps off the Wheel?
Hardcore conservative Christians insist that Hell is where we go if we turn our back on the Gospel of Jesus Christ, refusing God’s Grace as offered through the blood of the Cross — and once a person is judged to have missed his or her opportunity to attain eternal life in Heaven, that person must spend eternity in unimaginable pain/anguish, separated from God forever.
Universalists and other rogue Christians, however, are able to discern in the Bible a message of universal redemption. They maintain that, according to the overall Divine Plan represented in the totality of the Bible, every human who was ever born will have ample opportunity to attain redemption (i.e., be allowed into Heaven for all eternity), no matter how awful he or she may have been while in human form. Think of Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin and Idi Amin — they would all have the opportunity to “come to Jesus” and achieve eternal life in Heaven.
Christians, I think, get hung up on the notion that this human life — the one I, for instance, am living at the current moment — is all we get. This is our brief moment, “fallen” as it is, to secure salvation through belief in the archetypal Sacrifice of the Son — and then we die, at which time our soul moves on to its just reward.
But… what if the Buddhists have a more accurate concept of life-after-death? What if the Christian doctrine of Hell is only partially correct, in that Hell is actually what we encounter through multiple rebirths on this plane of existence — sometimes horrific, sometimes relatively blissful, always delusional until the light of Nirvana pops on…?
What if Salvation through Christ’s life, death, resurrection and ascension is actually a Mystery-depiction of the one universal Path back into ultimate union with God?
These questions, I maintain, lead naturally to a view of the Bible that tends to restate (in an albeit roundabout way) the Buddhadhamma, or the Middle Path that Gautama Buddha described through the Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eightfold Path.
While the Buddha refused to expound on the theme of God, he never denied the existence of God. What he gave us, however, was a detailed and (I would maintain) universal set of instructions for getting off the Wheel of Rebirth — out of Hell and into Heaven, in other words — and this message was for all humans who would dedicate their lives to a rigorous and skillful practice of his instructions.
Do you think that Jesus really meant you could get into Heaven by reciting a formula? Or do you think that Jesus, through his teachings and the example of his life, showed us a certain Way to secure union with the Father? Was it really a simple question of faith and belief (i.e., Free Grace)… or did he insist on a much deeper and committed level of surrender?
I sometimes wonder if Jesus, coming 500 years after the Buddha, wasn’t recasting the Buddha’s instructions for a much, much different audience — and, like the Buddha, he insisted that the way to Heaven is attained by dying to this world so that we may be reborn into an infinitely better one.
For both, it came down to transcending the desire-saturated nature of human life on this planet, seeing through the machinations of Mara/Satan, keeping one’s eyes on the prize through constant meditation/prayer/communion.
Hmmmmm…..


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September 20, 2010 at 2:45 am
jeanie pecats
Yes, this has possibilities!
September 20, 2010 at 7:00 am
Wayne Hawkins
Salvation in the Judeo and Christian Scriptures is wrapped around or centered by the concepts and practices of God’s love, justice and peace. The state of (or place of) salvation is where and when God’s creation is in peace and harmony with itself and God. There is a covenantal element basic to it. God’s people are responsible to honor the demands of love, justice and peace. The Scriptures, from beginning to end, talk about the consequences of failing to live according to the demands of this love, justice and peace. And there is the basic concept of grace: Due to human refusal to live the way God designed life, God graciously receives us all without question.
To accept this arrangement results in a state of perfect harmony that can be experienced in a variety of ways that have been described and lived by various faith traditions in ecstatic terms that are beautiful and unifying with the purposes of the universe.
Want to say much more, but I’m late for work!
September 20, 2010 at 3:20 pm
nick
Well Micheal I tend to think along the lines you outline above. In fact I just had a very similar discussion with my christian girlfriend. She sticks to the view of Jesus being the one and only son of God and the only way to salvation. What I’ve been thinking is that if the bible is true thats it might be a sort of archetypal truth, in which salvation is always accomplished through the grace, compassion and example of someone who has already realized God or the infinite. Which really isn’t far off the common eastern notion that salvation always occurs through the grace of a guru. I mean even as a practicing buddhist we have to recognize that at the very least our methods come to us through the grace of our teacher.
It also seems very plausible the Christian and Buddhist message are for different types of people. The buddhist one is very focused on methods and causality, well the christian is much more concerned with devotion and love. Both probably lead to salvation when practiced sincerely and earnestly but people are naturally going to be attracted to one approach over the other.
Well thought provoking stuff, happy to be reading your blog again.
Nick
September 29, 2010 at 10:19 am
Noelle Imparato
Hi Michael, interesting reflections indeed. Yes these are great ideas, to see the resemblance between Christ and Buddha’s messages. lf this was not the case, we would be in big trouble. However I would point a few things:
- The Buddha was clear that Nirvana can not be described as neither a death nor a rebirth. It’s not about entering another space. Nirvana is right here if we can open to it. No need to dye to go there. The Christian Church on the other hand has interpreted the message of Christ in a very fundamentalist way. It has heavily manipulated it. Many gospels were banished, the ones form women especially. The saints and other enlightened Christians must have known differently. Look at St John of the Cross for example.
- Earth is hell, yes for most people, but not necessarily. The Bodiccita come back to earth out of compassion, to help people become enlightened. In the Buddhist world the human plane is understood as a great opportunity to get enlightened (contrary to the gods who at the time were seen as enjoying themselves without being able to fully become enlightened, specifically because they were too attached to their own delight). In Buddhism Hell is our lack of “knowing,” hell is ignorance – which brings us back on the wheel. So in a way you are right, it is a nice way to see the Christian Hell as the punishing return to the wheel of death and rebirth.
- Buddha did not teach about a god creator and was very much against the Hindu idea of adoring Brahma as the creator. He was teaching the way to encounter our own Buddha nature within ourselves, and to not look outside of ourselves for consolation or authority. The bottom line in Buddhism is not God but “emptiness.” That’s a big difference in perspective — even though they may be trying to tell the same thing.
Perhaps the main difference between the two in my view, is that Buddha was focusing on wisdom, knowledge — Nirvana as the “knowing mind”. His 4 Noble Truths point to ignorance as the root of dukkha. And ignorance is used as his first link. While Christ message is all about Love. Of course the 2 go together. Perhaps as you say this difference of approach is due to different time and audience.
As for death and rebirth, the problem is that we always ask the questions in a way that does not apply. The experience of Nirvana is beyond words. It can not be described with words. There aren’t any words for it because who has experienced it and described it? Buddha tried. His first encounter after his enlightenment was with a Sadhu to whom he said “I am the Enlightened One.” But as he saw the Sadu go on his journey utterly perplexed, the Buddha readjusted his speech, and his first teaching was then: “There is dukkha … and an end to dukkha.” All his life he used the “via negativa”. Maybe the next Great Teacher will speak to a more sophisticated audience and will teach about what IS enlightenment. If that can be done?
October 1, 2010 at 6:44 pm
adreampuppet
Wayne said: “To accept this arrangement results in a state of perfect harmony that can be experienced in a variety of ways that have been described and lived by various faith traditions in ecstatic terms that are beautiful and unifying with the purposes of the universe. ”
Beautiful!!!!!!
It’s the “faith” element that is key to what I’m exploring here, by the way. So much of what Christianity and other religious traditions offer in terms of direct spiritual experience hinges on “faith” — something that many of us on the contemporary scene struggle with. Perhaps I speak for myself only, but I’m in search of a simple faith that was lost so long ago, knowing that there is a Mystery in faith that leads to a Promised Land unknown to sophisticates.
October 1, 2010 at 6:48 pm
adreampuppet
Nick: Interesting line of thought, dear friend. The onset of ecstatic phenomena within me occurred, in fact, through a child-like connection with the person of Christ (I was four or five when it first happened) — I was blown wide open, blasted through all the material and non-material jhanas, straight into an awareness based on a reality long-lost to most humans — and you are correct: the grace of God is there for us all, if we just ditch our own agenda and avail ourselves of it. Simple… but the longer we go without devoting ourselves to the prospect of Union, the more difficult it becomes…..
October 1, 2010 at 9:11 pm
adreampuppet
For sure, Noelle, there are vast differences between the teachings of Christ and of the Buddha. In some ways, it’s apples and oranges.
I’m just saying that, eventually, all the fruit ends up in the same juice… and I find the similarities between Christianity and Buddhism to be helpful, especially when they resonate with my own direct experiences.
Thanks so much for your thoughtful and earnest reply, my friend.